tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post3302089858021753970..comments2023-10-30T01:52:04.961-07:00Comments on Miniver Cheevy: Class categoriesJonathan Kormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06249159323930786199noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-86122455443473933842012-12-07T10:29:25.485-08:002012-12-07T10:29:25.485-08:00Carlin, there's definitely something to your p...Carlin, there's definitely something to your point about how people with different temperaments approach their work and affect the organizations in which they operate. But I'm not sure that this tells us much about the social-political order of social class.Jonathan Kormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06249159323930786199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-58949389594706854242012-12-07T09:37:47.880-08:002012-12-07T09:37:47.880-08:00I find a hidden but critical subclass of the Profe...I find a hidden but critical subclass of the Professional and Intellectual classes that I call change effectors (borrowed from biology). These are the people who understand the impact of their particular contribution on the larger society and change that impact for the improvement of that society. <br />All to many professionals and intellectuals are essentially assembly line workers. The project falls off the feed line, bounces off the floor, is picked up, placed on the white board, solved, and the button pushed for the next one on the feed line. <br />The change effector has an extra white board where "what did I learn" is noted before the "next" button is pushed. And uses that accumulated knowledge to change the way the line works. <br />These people are the Salman Khans who see beyond the endless stream of lecture halls, day after day, to a new way of teaching. To pick one famous example. J'Carlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811626573349505654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-3395869620692589682007-04-09T11:40:00.000-07:002007-04-09T11:40:00.000-07:00Are you ill? Traveling? Bored with blogging?Mis...Are you ill? Traveling? Bored with blogging?<BR/><BR/>Miss these insights into your life and times.<BR/><BR/>Love,<BR/><BR/>MomKatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05523786619511618262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-76734381924866298912007-03-21T09:36:00.000-07:002007-03-21T09:36:00.000-07:00Was just discussing the vagaries of class while in...Was just discussing the vagaries of class while in Britain last weekend. <BR/><BR/>These catagories are helpful to the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-78457182992212042772007-03-20T19:10:00.000-07:002007-03-20T19:10:00.000-07:00darkchilde,I think the phenomenon you describe is ...darkchilde,<BR/><BR/>I think the phenomenon you describe is one of the primary reasons political discussions of class (and usually the subsequent discussions of taxes) are often non-starters in this America. *Most* Americans consider themselves rich or very well off (except those in the working poor category and below - they know what the score is)or envision themselves soon to be rich. They don't want to tax "themselves" even though they are largely by no means rich -and generally unlikely to become truly rich.<BR/><BR/>Well, that phenomenon, and a lot of very poor framing on the part of the Left.batojarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980345939315605198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6216910.post-92225335602012186142007-03-20T13:59:00.000-07:002007-03-20T13:59:00.000-07:00One of the big enlightenments of my youthful, teen...One of the big enlightenments of my youthful, teenage years was found in 10th grade when my economics teacher explained the economic catagories and the level of weath/income needed for each of them.<BR/><BR/>I had grown up with my mother and father telling me how we were wealthy and "better off" than many others. I remember being told how to be nice to those who "don't have as much" and other things that would indicate to my young mind that we were in the upper-middle class.<BR/><BR/>Then I say the statistics and learned that we were actually in the LOWER middle-class and barely scraping along to fit in there!<BR/><BR/>My mother just wanted SO MUCH to be in the upper class that she convinced herself (and me for a while) that we WERE there...<BR/><BR/>perspective...it's quite a thing!<BR/><BR/>I like your break-down of class categories...but it is interesting how you are using the groups on an "effort"-scale rather than a wealth-scale.d a r k c h i l d ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08382972138741762169noreply@blogger.com